The Sharpen Podcast

Balancing Business, Ministry, and Marriage

Join co-host Steve Van Diest as he sits down with Sean Taylor, co-founder of Cornerstone Christian Counseling. In this episode, they explore the intersection of business, ministry, and marriage, offering valuable insights for business owners and CEOs looking to grow and thrive.
Sean shares his journey of starting a faith-based counseling practice with his wife, Angie, and the unique challenges and rewards of running a business as a couple. They discuss the importance of maintaining healthy boundaries between work and personal life and offer practical tips for couples who work together.
Additionally, Sean delves into the significance of seeking professional counseling for business owners and their employees, highlighting when and why to consider it. This episode is packed with wisdom on balancing multiple roles, fostering healthy relationships, and achieving personal and professional growth.
Don't miss this enlightening conversation that provides actionable advice for integrating faith and business, while also taking care of mental health. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of how to navigate the complexities of business, ministry, and marriage.

Sustainable Success: The Power of Operating Systems (and Humility)

Join us for another down-to-earth conversation packed with wisdom and humor! Dan Cooper interviews Levi Messer on his movement from a trailblazing, sales-superhero style of leadership to something more collaborative, humble, and sustainable. One key takeaway: the value (and necessity) of a strong operating system!
Learn how Levi grew personally and professionally, built a strong leadership team, and embraced a mission to change people's eternity through his work. Discover insights and practical advice for business owners looking to achieve sustainable success.

Striking a Balance: Intentional Priorities during Growth and Chaos

We all strive to balance our personal and professional lives - but how much more challenging can that be when you're combatting the patterns modeled to you, when your business is growing by leaps and bounds, and when the joyfully chaotic life of a young family is complicated further by processes of adoption? What can it look like for balance and calm to prevail, even then? Steve Van Diest interviews Jonathan Hachmeister about his experience as the son of a founder, as the father of young children, and as the leader of a growing company in this episode of the Sharpen Podcast.

Always Add Value: When "Retired" is the Wrong Word

Our desire to add value to the world doesn't just vanish after we exit the business leadership seat. So what can a meaningfully productive retirement look like? Dan Cooper interviews Augie Grasis about his experience in this episode of the Sharpen Podcast.

When Hiring Out Your Weaknesses Goes Wrong

Steve Van Diest interviews Justin Donat about his experience of twisting the classic business advice, "Hire out of your weaknesses," in negative ways.

The Future of AI: A Practical Perspective

Join Dan Cooper and Roper DeGarmo for a frank discussion of AI and its practical applications in the world of business leadership.

The Marketing Intersection: Bottom Lines, AI, and the Companies That Predict the Future

How can you ensure your marketing team is directly impacting the bottom line? What are the best and most profitable applications of AI in the marketing sphere? Robin Emiliani, Co-Founder & CMGO at Catalyst Marketing Agency, explores these questions and more in this insightful conversation with our co-host, Steve Van Diest.

Setting the Table for the Next Generation

Sean Miller, Chairman of the Miller Group, dives into succession planning, values-based business leadership, and how to set a company's next generation of leaders up for success in this insightful conversation with Acumen CEO Dan Cooper.
Episode Summary
0:06-0:56
Dan Cooper introduces himself and his guest, Sean Miller, who recently transitioned from CEO to Chairman of the Miller Group in Kansas City. He sets up listeners for today’s topic: succession strategy, especially in the context of a family-owned business, and setting the table for the next generation.
0:57-7:14
Sean Miller describes his insurance and employee benefits company and its history and services. He speaks to the recent transition in leadership to his niece, and recounts the story of his own unwilling transition into leadership, alongside his brother, when his father was diagnosed with terminal cancer. After briefly considering selling the company, Sean and his brother brought the business through many iterations before working with The Table Group to connect the organization deeply with its values, mission, and purpose. This transformative process changed the culture radically. Ever since, the Miller Group has consistently ranked as the Best Place to Work for their business size in Kansas City. Sean attributes much of this to the consistency of the business’s values, which are maintained by retaining leadership within the family.
7:15-16:45
Dan clarifies that there are two different parts to Sean’s transition puzzle: leadership and ownership.
Sean agrees and focuses in on the leadership piece. His niece, Amber, came on board about 10 years ago and was quickly identified as a manager and leader, so Sean began handing her assignments. This included their smallest practice, the personal lines practice, which was marginal, not bringing in much revenue, and run by a problematic employee. Amber increased the revenue by 500% over three years, made it a profitable practice for the organization, and let go of the problematic employee. She proved she was able to identify and address challenges, so she was moved on to the next tricky side of the business, and then the next! She made all the right moves wherever she went, learning along the way and instilling the Miller values and culture.
Sean began bringing in other leaders to support, and when he intentionally began to do less and less, he watched Amber rise to the occasion. He is proud to say she is respected for her merits and accomplishments far beyond her ownership of the Miller name, which isn’t enough in a family-led business. Family businesses, Sean asserts, are tricky; you aren’t just managing a business, but unique and complicated interpersonal relationships as well. He shares how the family members in the organization are able to have their own lanes, and talks about how he worked to transition some of his pieces over to others during his movement out of the CEO seat. Ultimately, he and his brother transitioned in a structured, intentional way that retained customers and processes successfully.
16:46-17:39
Dan summaries the best practices Sean put into place during the transition: mentorship, trusting the successor with challenges, accurately identifying the areas of high potential while also moving the successor from area to area for practice, and ultimately removing the previous CEO from his seat as the “hub”of the organization.
17:40-21:18
Dan asks about the heart piece of Sean’s transition: how did he know, in both his head and his heart, that it was time to transition?
Sean shares that his executive team and the Miller family had a strategic planning meeting about 5 years ago when everyone wrote down on a card where they wanted the company to be, in terms of their revenue, in 10 years. Both he and his brother had put smaller numbers than anyone else, indicating that their interest in growth had deeply waned. This told him it was time to hand things off to the next generation! He also shared about his love of mentorship as he’s aged, and the greater joy he finds in watching the next generation make wins than he even did in his own.
21:19-26:22
In terms of the ownership transition, Sean shares that they transitioned 1% to each of their kids a few years back, just as his father had done with Sean and his brother. His father had gifted them a portion of ownership, and then allowed them to purchase the company over several years through donations to the donor-advised fund, so they’ve done the same with their own children. They are now determining what to do next: possibly a 10 year compensation agreement, since the children can’t yet afford to buy them out? Figuring this out is the goal for the year. He points to a parallel example he’d heard of, where two brothers wound up in a lawsuit against each other when one chose to change his process with his own children versus his brothers. Sean and his brother talk about that situation frequently as a cautionary tale, with the key takeaway being that ownership needs to be kept equal between the business-active children, with ownership staying no higher than 5% for those not active in the business.
26:23-27:25
Dan queries: who’s on the deal team, in such a complicated process? Sean shares that they have consulted everyone from consultants and psychologists to accountants and estate planning attorneys.
27:26-27:52
Sean and Dan discuss the importance of starting the transition plan very early.
27:53-30:05
Dan asks Sean to share final tips.
Sean emphasizes the importance of maintaining relationships. He asserts that the family members in the process need to know each other well and meet frequently and regularly. He also believes in the important of not talking about business at family events, of not tripping over each other and getting in one anothers’ lanes, and of the benefits of growing, as it gives a wider range of opportunities for the different family members. Communication, of course, is also key.
30:06-33:40
Dan asks Sean about his faith’s impact on his story and the Miller Group’s business.
Sean shares that the group’s purpose is to serve and help others for the greater glory of God. That statement is even on his dad’s tombstone! They also place God, family, and community first, with that statement on the wallpaper in their lobby. They are upfront about that when they hire people - that they incorporate prayer and the Bible in their daily routines. Faith is a huge part of the company’s culture, and they are explicit about it!
33:41-35:26
Dan asks how Sean is improving himself currently, and Sean shares more about his new role as Growth Catalyst at Acumen, and his work on fundraising for his diocese. He wants to continue adding value to the lives and community around him, beyond his role as CEO of the Miller Group.
35:27-36:33
Dan closes out by requesting Sean’s contact information.
Website: millercares.com
Sean’s mobile number: 816-686-9046
Sean’s email: seanm@millercares.com
Dan shares more information about learning more about Acumen at acumenimpact.com.